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Media Bias and the Democratic Primaries

Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:10 PM EST
politics, barack-obama, hillary-clinton, media-bias
By Eco-geek

Photo by roxanne jo mitchell. (License: Creative Commons Attribution)

Reaching for a pillow from the audience.

I would hate to be biased...

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Hillary Clinton: Maybe we should ask Barack if he's comfortable and needs another pillow.

Allegations of media bias have been swirling about the Democratic primaries for weeks now, culminating with the above quote during the February 26th MSNBC-sponsored debate in Cleveland, Ohio. The quote itself, a reference to the opening sketch of the previous weekend's episode of Saturday Night Live, was used by Senator Clinton to demonstrate a growing perception that the two remaining Democratic candidates are receiving different treatment by the media.

A day before the debate, The Drudge Report broke a story about a photo reportedly sent to the website by an unnamed Clinton staffer. The photo was of Senator Obama dressed in traditional Somali garb, and was accompanied by a comment: "Wouldn't we be seeing this on the cover of every magazine if it were HRC."

It is becoming increasingly accepted as fact that the media is biased against Hillary Clinton at this stage in the race. That "fact", much like her claims of experience, requires some further inspection.

Rewind 9 months. Before a single vote had been cast, the media had already anointed Hillary Clinton our next President. Conservative commentator Sean Hannity was touting his "Stop Hillary Express." In everyone's mind, in no small part due to the proclamations of the media, Hillary Clinton was going to be the Democratic nominee, and barring some unforeseen event, our next President.

At the time, Senator Obama was little more than a curiosity, his "rock-star persona" garnering him little more than the occasional press granted to unlikely candidates without a chance of winning the election. Where were the cries of media bias then?

In the earliest debates, when Senator Obama was criticized as naive, perfectly in-step with Senator Clinton's position, for his willingness to conduct Presidential talks with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, and Cuba, with little-to-no actual analysis of his position, where were the cries of media bias then?

It wasn't until Senator Obama won the Iowa caucuses that the media began to take him seriously, and gave him more than a snowball's chance at winning his party's nomination. A chink had been found in Hillary's armor of "inevitability," and only then did the mainstream even start to consider that she might not win the nomination, and really give her the examination she had theretofore avoided.

Perhaps that is the reason for the claims of media bias. When something previously to your benefit swings to a more neutral stance, of course it seems biased against you.

Of course, I could be wrong. I'm sure the media would still be considering Obama a contender if he lost 11 straight primaries and caucuses, most of which by a margin of 20% or more.

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Eco-geek

Admittedly, I'm pretty biased on this topic, but I suspect a certain candidate is overlooking the bias she enjoyed for the first year or so of the campaign.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:41 PM EST
The Patriot

And you call my articles bizarro... Obama has not won any states of significance; and the states he did win were due to a majority black voting demographic. He will certainly not enjoy that same advantage against McCain - and he is destined for second place if he is nominated.

    #1.1 - Tue May 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
    Roy Batty

    the states he did win were due to a majority black voting demographic.

    Yeah, like Washington state?

    • 4 votes
    #1.2 - Sat May 31, 2008 1:59 AM EDT
    Oluseye

    the states he did win were due to a majority black voting demographic.

    Hell, I didn't know there were so many black states in America to give him such a huge majority in states won.

    • 5 votes
    #1.3 - Sat May 31, 2008 9:56 AM EDT
    Independent Rob

    Yeah I never new how black the states of Iowa and Oregon were. What a shock eh? . Do people research their arguments first before posting ridiculous claims?

    • 3 votes
    #1.4 - Sat May 31, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
    Roy Batty

    Do people research their arguments first before posting ridiculous claims?

    No, that involves work.

    • 3 votes
    #1.5 - Sat May 31, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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    Cliff Potter

    Your article is factually inaccurate. Look at the articles on this subject, and studies regarding media bias concerning Hillary Clinton. Look at the articles. Do this before you make your factual allegations.

    By the way, MSNBC was always biased against Hillary Clinton. Just find any transcript of Chris Matthews last year or the year before.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#2 - Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:57 PM EST
    Eco-geek

    Cliff,

    Can't say I'm too surprised to see you here, but thanks for coming. I appreciate the challenge to my thoughts and writings.

    That said, this was an opinion piece, and I even admitted my own bias. But can you point to a single factual inaccuracy?

    I may well concede that the tide has turned against her now, but the fact is that Hillary was the beneficiary of considerable media bias for the majority of her campaign. Obama had to work for months to tear down the pedestal that the media had put her on in order to get an even footing, and did so without the complaints of media bias.

    I know we have our own horses in this race, and we're not likely to agree, but I think it's unfair to complain about the media being biased against Hillary when it was in her favor for so long.

    • 2 votes
    #2.1 - Sat Mar 1, 2008 7:33 AM EST
    Cliff Potter

    It wasn't until Senator Obama won the Iowa caucuses that the media began to take him seriously, and gave him more than a snowball's chance at winning his party's nomination. A chink had been found in Hillary's armor of "inevitability," and only then did the mainstream even start to consider that she might not win the nomination, and really give her the examination she had theretofore avoided.

    Perhaps that is the reason for the claims of media bias. When something previously to your benefit swings to a more neutral stance, of course it seems biased against you.

    The claims of media bias are present in my articles before Iowa. They were so prevalent that MSNBC required Chris Matthews to make an apology, and it has changed the way he has treated Hillary Clinton. One can listen even today to the media and their comments are continually biased.

    This had nothing to do with Iowa. It had everything to do with the objectives of the press in fighting against another Clinton. Many of the old guard had institutionally developed a bias against the Clintons because they sold copy. And because they hated them.

    So they ginned up stories in the 1990s, and worked on this again beginning in 2006. Real Dowd on NYT. Read almost any article on the Clintons since the race began. Most are not truthful or laudatory. Then read all on Obama. From the Rezko affair to many others, none were pursued. Racism claims were regularly repeated. And entire "disenfranchisement" argument against th Clintons was made up from whole cloth.

    There is so much more. Perhaps you missed these many articles. My experience is that we do not see or listen to contrary positions. I do so much more today in large part due to Newsvine. It has made me a better listener. For that and many other reasons, I believe in Newsvine. And I certainly do not believe that the media or the Democratic establishment have ever been biased in favor of the Clintons.

    • 1 vote
    #2.2 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:25 AM EST
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    Debbie-246220

    If we are going to talk about media bias, let's start with the absolute exclusion in the media of certain candidates. Namely, Kucinich, Gravel and Paul. Paul has clearly received far more airtime than the other two. Is Clinton being portrayed negatively by the media lately? Maybe. But there is a saying that says that any coverage in the news is good as it still boosts people's name recognition.

    Meantime, Mike Gravel, who is clearly the most experienced and qualified of the remaining Democratic candidates, is relegated to near non-existence. Even NPR doesn't reflect the fact that he is still running.

    The real media bias is the fact that our media is owned by only 6 large corporations funneled up to a few old rich white men who want to ensure that they remain rich. For example, I don't suppose there was any conflict of interest when MSNBC chose to "un-invite" Kucinich from a debate a couple of months ago for no reason whatsoever (he met all their pre-defined criteria), when GE, who is the ultimate owner of MSNBC, also owns Raytheon and nuclear energy investments. Kucinich was against the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste bill. The very place GE would like to store the waste from their nuclear plants. GE also contributed to Clinton, Edwards and Obama's campaigns. No conflict of interest there at all.

    Face the facts, folks. Our media and our government is wholly-owned by corporations and military interests. If we don't end the corruption, we'll be in wars from now until the end of time. It's good for business, after all.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:38 PM EST
    Eco-geek

    For the most part, I agree with you, Debbie. Our media outlets do a poor job of giving new and less mainstream ideas and candidates the consideration and coverage they deserve. As someone who began their career as a Libertarian, I was quite frustrated by the media's refusal to allow Harry Browne to enter into the presidential debates in 1996 and 2000.

    That said, I think a certain amount of vetting needs to occur. If I, a political unknown with no experience, announced my candidacy for the Presidency on the Democratic ticket, should I really get the same amount of airtime as someone who is polling at 25% during the early primaries?

    I don't deny that there are those in power, in politics as well as the media, who repress new ideas and those who support them in an attempt to secure their own power. But given the media's responsibility to inform the public about the candidates, at what point is it more in the nation's best interest to use the limited time available to focus on the candidates with a chance of winning the Presidency, and set those without that chance aside?

    Don't misunderstand me - I think what MSNBC did to Kucinich in Nevada was wrong. But at the same time, as I have mentioned in other articles on the subject, Paul and Kucinch were never viable candidates. They want to change too much in too short a time, and the American people (and the media in particular) are going to have a hard time supporting that. As for Gravel, I don't know much about him except that he threw a rock into a pond.

    Sad but true.

    Thanks for commenting.

    • 2 votes
    #3.1 - Sat Mar 1, 2008 7:47 AM EST
    Debbie-246220

    Your comment about Gravel is exactly what I mean. The fact is that MOST people still rely exclusively on TV and newspapers to tell them: 1) who is running 2) who has a chance to win 3) where those candidates stand on issues 4) if there's any dirt on any of the candidates that are running.

    I think it's really important for us as CITIZENS to start researching ALL the candidates on our own.

    I don't think that Kucinich's positions were really all that far from mainstream thought or desire on the part of the public. The issue is that his message was so hidden by the mainstream media that no one knew what his positions were unless they bothered to research for themselves and learn about the candidates positions. I don't bother too much with the mainstream news anymore, but the few times I check in, I have heard hardly a word about what the candidates stand on issues really is but rather what their political strategy is or should be in order to win this state or that. That is simply unacceptable.

    I'd like to know who reading this blog is aware of Gravel's background at this point?

    Do you all know that he:

    1) was singularly responsible for ending the draft during Vietnam with a one-man 50 day fillibuster?
    2) read the Pentagon Papers into the senate record so the people would have access to them?
    3) was responsible for nearly every environmental law passed in the 70's?

    We need to end the media repression of candidates that truly represent us.

    • 2 votes
    #3.2 - Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:59 PM EST
    energynet

    I'm a Gravel fan as well.

    He's a wonderful example of how far to the right this country has gone, and especially his home state of Alaska, where everybody gets an annual check from oil companies.

    The system gives us choice between tweedle dee and dumb. The issues are removed from the public's mind as more and more of the person is shredded by the entertainment driven scandal sheets.

    We have a country of 8 second sound byte, fashion driven, TV brainwashed, passive aggressivists, democracy means vote once every two years, living in the Matrix zombies.

    The real issues need years of re-education for most citizens who have know conception of the larger world other than as it is painted on TV.

    We all should have jumped off with Cliff, but then we should have landed with a new system of parties that could really evolve into representing us rather than the corporate machine.

    Did they do enough damage or should we rub their nose in a full scale dictatorship?

    I had the pleasure of living in a dictatorship in Taiwan 35 years ago.

    We are just a few months from letting the system continue on with its big plan.

    It doesn't matter who they vote for. They are all now corporate shills.

      #3.3 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 6:20 PM EST
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      Pamela Drew

      Some things are nice to have on the record, with a time stamp. Good call!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#5 - Sat May 31, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
      Eco-geek

      Thanks, Pamela. I just wish we could get past all this and move to November, and then 1/20/09.

        #5.1 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
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        Maggie-264380

        This one is on the money, but the Clintonistas are raving about the sexism charge and will refuse to see the truth, any truth. They are in meltdown mode and completely ballistic and unpredictable.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#6 - Sat May 31, 2008 3:32 AM EDT
        Eco-geek

        The Clintonistas are raving about anything that will get people to pay attention to them at this point. They realize they've lost, but they aren't willing to accept it.

        I ran some numbers using the CNN Delegate Calculator a little bit ago. If you give Clinton a 70/30 victory in Puerto Rico, split Montana and South Dakota 50/50 (giving Clinton an 8/7 advantage in South Dakota since it has 15 delegates) she'd have to convince more than 86% of the remaining superdelegates to ignore the popular vote, pledged delegate vote, and who won the most states.

        It's time to end this...and I hope the Superdelegates do just that this week.

        • 1 vote
        #6.1 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 5:48 PM EDT
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